Is she a 222 or a 22? You tell me.

I keep hearing peole say she is a 222 since she has the pop top. Could be....
According to the image at sailboat data,  they are correct.
At this same sight, they show the motor well as the 22. Which is she?  I don't know.
If any one has information to solve this mystery an answer would be nice, if nothing else  just for posterity' s sake.

Flotation

In the area under the cock pit the foam looks good except where it appears gas was spilled through the aft hatch. Cutting that out and replacing it is not a problem.
The foam under the v berth is  a joke.  I have not squatted down to see exactly how much is there but dead air space is not flotation in my book and if the back part has as much dead air space as the part I've noticed this is going to change!
Was researching keels and an across sailing small. I like what he did in the V berth flotation area. It looks like he put a bulkhead to push the flotation area  back a bit ( which if you fill it completely up with foam would not create a lose of flotation) and added a small storage area. On a boat this small that's a LOT of added storage.
Taking the lid off the V berth and checking for mold, mildew and critters is a given. I am seriously toying with the idea of fiber glassing the boards for a more water tight compartment later. I'm figuring on red daubers nest in new numbers in this area. Depending on the condition of the foam chunks hanging them out on the line in my wool nets is a given. Scrubbing out the area is another given.

I've given this a lot of thought. The idea of these misc sized chunks of foam is just not something I am comfortable with. Sure if you hit something and a SMALL hole gets in your hull your OK, but I like the odds of solid foam in those areas. The general idea is take a foam board, ( I already have one handy form another project)  glue it to the hull them line the cavity and  push as much foam chunks in it as I can and fasten them together the canned foam. Yes it is expensive.  I still have the canned foam I bought for The Toy so I'm good to go for quite a ways on this idea.  It' s cheaper and easier  then buying new foam and having to cut it to fit.  That way if, heaven forbid, I should get my hull ripped badly the foam stays put and does not find its way floating onto the waves.
 The sheet of foam I have on hand is lined on one side with foil. I'm figuring this will help on being a better reflection on someone radar even if it is on the hull since at least part of it is going to b above the water line.  It definitely won't hurt.
If there was any foam on the port side it has been removed. I can put a mop all the way down to the berth area so I know it is empty.  The question is where to put foam.  I have been toying with the idea of making a galley like the bigger Macs have that slides into the aft portion under the cockpit.  I have not measured it but it looks to be about a foot wide at top. If I fill in the back  two or three feet that is gong to give me a lot of added flotation.  I just want to make sure to leave a small area against the stern empty for any thing I need to be able to fasten to the lower stern area later.  If I insert more foam above the existing foam under the cockpit that will add even more. There is maybe a 2 inch gap.  To compensate for lost storage I'll open up the forepart of the port side storage and put it to use. The top is plywood so it will not be  a problem. It occurs as time allows maybe even put glass over that in a later project. ( next winter maybe) .

On the starboard side, there is absolutely no foam that I have seen.  This is unacceptable. Where to put foam?   The porta pottie area puts your knees to your chin if you have to sit.  It occurs to me by raising the pottie an inch or two  a person could add foam in that area and tab a lid to it with a fiberglass sheet.  Since storage is at a premium  it make sense to use the spots that are hardest to get at so the extreme stern area once again is going to get put to use. The same stipulation of leaving a small area to be able to access the stern applies.

I am going to have to extend the v berth on at least one side for sleeping, We are all to tall other wise, It occurs since feet being cramped in that tiny area is not a good thing to put a small corners worth in the first couple of inches after I get the bow reinforced.  The question becomes what to cover it with . The plastic panels from home improvement stores come to mind.

Updated book page   Still waiting on two books,. Got a notice saying the Post Office lost a bunch of mailings one seller sent out and apparently my book by Annie Hill was in them.  They are resending another copy of the book. Must have had a rash of lost books since the book about heaving to is late as well unless it shows up today (12/24/10) which was the last date on the projected  delivery time frame.

Interior Ideas

I am no where ready to start actually making concrete plans on this part of things BUT when I find a good idea that i like and that  suits it's reasonable to put it some where so here it is, a page for interior ideas I like, It's going to be a living page so I'll be adding to  it as I find ideas I like. Its mostly going to be links I think at least for now.



Galley
stove cabinet could be widened to make room for sink as well  I'm thinking drop downs on side for more counter space when cooking.  I already have this cook stove, Could add a second hole if you really wanted to  and have your "back up" as a second burner. Cooking with only one burner is the pits! I've done it for years and it is not fun! Coleman sells a oven you set on top of their stove for baking. I'm thinking an insulated box made out of two layers of sheet metal spaced maybe 1/2 to 1 inch apart and insulated ( like a solar oven) with a thermostat  would work same.  Yes, they sell two burner stoves, I like this idea better a I can space the burners the way I want to and it is a lot more secure then having a two burner sitting on top of a board,. Fasteners do come lose from time to time. If it is in side a wood frame like this its not going to come lose and jettison across the hull in a blow.

UPDATE!!! The only problem with the above idea is HOW do I gimble it?

Up on Blocks and supports

have to look at the keel and probably need o pull it and redo it. How to support it to accomplish all this?
Ive been doing a LOT of reading/ research  about this. To say I am nervous is an understatement.
  KISS and be able to do it in my driveway.
 This idea is not in concrete so if any one has any reason it won't work or is more dangerous then any other idea out there other then the obvious fact that  hard wood frame slings etc would be more solid ( and way out of my reach and space) sing out!

. Using straps and ground stakes instead of wood framing would keep the area under the boat clear for easier keel removal.  . The photo that inspired this idea is here.  I found that off of the  ask  Macgregor owner forum

Here is  web page for restoration of a V 22

Bedding Hardware With Butyl Tape

http://forums.macgregor.sailboatowners.com/showthread.php?t=117172

Nuff said?

Gel Coat and Sailbags

Got a wild hair and decided to try sanding off the decals on out side of boat.  Noticed the discolored area next to the decal started turning white. I'm thinking they used gel paste and not gel coat as finish. Planning on putting a layer of gel coat on it this spring. Bet it look a lot better,. Also noticed the cracked area looks better after a bit of sanding on it. Buffing this boat out when it warms up  should make it look really great .
Washed sail bag and sail cover. New sail cover is definitely on the agenda. It will not come clean.  Sailbag is PVC cloth ( I thik) and was not really dirty but wanted to get teh red dust out of it.

Figured out why the red mud was not acting like plain old fashioned red mud when I washed the sails. Dirt dobbers had made apartment complexes out of the back of the vinyl covered boards. One board was so thick with dabber nest it literally was covered end to end. I'm figuring the enzymes are what is making the dirt so hard to get out. Need to find an enzyme cleaner that is safe for Dacron.

Today is about chain plates with a dash of winches thrown in for flavoring.

A picture is worth a thousand words and there is a lot to say about the port side of the chain plate area.


  PORT

Both sides have a LOT of spidering around the chain plate area.

Outside  

  Out side you notice a different color on port just aft of the chain plate area.  Something happened. The fiberglass inside has no noticeable difference in the fiberglass but that could be because it all looks alike to me or that fiberglass is all the same color.
I took a second look, Yes, it has been fixed above the water line. The pics show a completely different color. I'm just hoping it is not bondo.

Directly under the chain plate there is the slightest bit of a waviness to the rub rail that does not happen on starboard.  Like it has been pulled in tighter and put extra pressure on things.

Crack goes under chain plate........

and onto side

 Interior appears to be good so I am thinking it is just  in gel coat.

A close up showing waviness in rub rail

Another view showing waviness in rub rail

Fasteners  look good.

Rub rail is loose in this entire area.

Old holes

Interior

There are nuts loose and missing. A lot of silicone as in the holes that extend to the top of the hull. All this is in the area immediately aft of the port chain plate extending to about four foot.  This is consistent with the discoloration on the out side .  The rest of the hull deck plate connection on both sides  looks great.

 Interior chain plate

As you can see there is not a lot of room for backing plates

Where plate is flush against hull.

I've got my little finger  poked in as tight as it can go .

Just barely room to stick a finger in

For comparison The Starboard shows no signs of anything except spidering.

 Winches

While I was snapping shots I got the winches. The question is what kind are they and where do I get a handle? 

Prior repair

When I originally looked at this boat the off colored areas being a prior repair occurred to me.  


It appears I was right. It is above the water line . They simply did not fill in the bolt holes.

                                                                         

This shot is about making sure I can get something fiberglass will not stick to between hull and deck plate.

Deck Plates, Hulls and other stuff.

Are you old enough to remember when little  girls has playhouses in the back yard or a tree house?. An adult could theoretically sit inside but not with any comfort.  Now imagine trying to run a sander in a very small place such as that for a couple of hours and you have an accurate description of what I did during the warm hours today.  The good news is I have a wood burning stove to warm up  next to and  get the resulting kinks out of my back.  No one told me I had to be a contortionist to do this. ROFLMAO!!!!!!


Deck plate at Hull
Basically it looks pretty good, It is sealed in the parts I have seen so far.  The bolts that are exposed look solid, NO sign of corrosion

The bumps are the bolts.

The red stains are the result of mud daubers, which explains where all the red mud on the sails came from

Chain plate

Chain plate was partially hidden under board. Fastens to hull on inside then through deck plate. That would explain all  the spidering.

The Sink
 

 

The sink it self is usable.

Hoses appear usable

 V berth base board
It had the same thin vinyl covered ply wood that the deck plate area was covered with

Prior ventilation system for under V Berth

Mud Dauber Central

Vinyl Covering on V berth End
The board will make a good template for the new one.

It was still wet after sitting all this time. I literally rubbed this splinter off.

Tore out part of carpet. The hull is good and solid , I was concerned about that since on the trailer we could not see the very bottom to well.  No sign of soft spot or weakness. The pics did not come out so will have to retake them




I finally got the port aft locker opened. It was painted shut on one corner.  Other then the carpet it looks solid.

 Token First aid kit

The Aft hatch

This is why I take o many pictures, I have looked at this boat 100 times and did not see this hole until I looked at the photos.